War Victory

I would like to see a change in this trophy configuration. I would need a trophy hall in each town for the town to participate in gaining trophies when I launch an attack from there, but my trophies would accumulate ... maybe in dwelling trophy hall only ... so it is accumulated by hero action and not by town. It is quite difficult for a hero to get a victory with all he/she does ... and let alone within six months .. and now it must qualify by only being launched from one town.

My thoughts exactly.  I was going to write something similar to this, but you beat me to it. 

I understand that armies can be sent out and be awarded trophies without the hero, but they are doing so from the hero's domain.  It is the 'hero's victory', not the specific launching town's victory.

When you are lauching attacks, especially if you need to march and can not use rafts, you obviously want to select your launch point as close as you can to your target to reduce the marching time. 

I do like how trophies are awarded by cumulative damage done to buildings within one attack, and not on a per building basis.  However, it seems a bit unfair that level 1 promoted buildings are considered one level destroyed, when these are the hardest buildings in the game to defeat.  (Next to impossible to defeat level 1 promoted buildings with upgraded classical siege weapons, you have to wait until the very end of medieval to add upgraded trebuchets to your army to get even close). 

Just to point out something even crazier.  I launched an attack today for the first time on one of my neighbors and selected 'supportive' buildings as the target.  The trophy hall was one of the first buildings to be destroyed, before any houses and before the town hall.

The trophy hall was one of the first buildings to be destroyed, before any houses and before the town hall.

Yeah I reported this earlier and clearly, it HAS, to be fixed, just think about the fact that someone by be close to the victory and loose the trophy hall just for such a luck of another player: in other mmos some players did suicide/killed someone for less than that.

Otherwise I don't think the fact that all attacks have to be made from one town is an issue, it even avoid one "exploit". I mean, it's still possible to do it and it might help but won't reward trophies.

sorry, goz, i understood what you wrote to say that the trophy hall was destroyed AFTER all other support buildings.  my experience was that it was destroyed BEFORE any other support buildings.

sorry, goz, i understood what you wrote to say that the trophy hall was destroyed AFTER all other support buildings.  my experience was that it was destroyed BEFORE any other support buildings.

I experienced the same thing. Total destruction of a player's upgraded trophy hall when choosing support buildings for attack.

most likely they just built the trophy hall. The buildings kind of get destroyed in order of last thing built.

Why is it a support building and not a culture building? What support does it give?

it supports my army by keeping my trophies :)

it supports my army by keeping my trophies :)

Oh yes, but if it FED your army you would be a very happy player :)

The Trophy Hall should not be destroyed easily, so I will add some health and armor to the building

I even have plans to make pecentage of trophies in the hall of the town publically visible for everyone in the world

not some easily farmable achievements

- it sure shall be destroyable, but likely not in a single attack, so even with a lot of health and armor, 2 or 3 players attacking the town with some luck, may destroy it all of sudden, thus the idea that it should be destroyable only after all cottages/town hall for example.

- I like the idea of it visible, especially if trophies are not wiped after conversion, it may make players nervous when they are about to win and may make some people want to steal it, not like it's easy since town hall would have to be destroyed first. Well if it wipes it at least it might still be used as a revenge.

- farming, well so far it seems that most trophies ARE farming, most of them seem easier to get by harassing casual players/abandoned towns than other players looking for war victory.

I think that the amount of trophies for supportive, military, and economical structures needs to be increased. There are a lot more of them than the science and cultural buildings.

I also agree that there is a problem with the wall calculation. It always only goes from 10 to 1 so you only get one trophy for it and then none when you destroy the level 1 wall that is left. Maybe changed to one trophy for every 4 levels so that at least you get two of them? Or reduce the number of Wall trophies required?

I also do not understand the Spy trophy. Does espionage count as attack? How will I ever get it when one artiste at your dwelling (bers) lived through a visit from 49 artistes? Do I need to send the spies to onslaught to get that trophy?

I have a couple opinions about the way the trophy hall looks when you view it. I don't like the green check over the trophy. I think it makes it look ugly. I would prefer a different way of marking it complete. Maybe changing the color of the background. When the trophy is completed and I get more, I would like to see the number increase under the trophy. I know I can see it in the description box but I would also like it in the "view" area. 

I think some of the trophies (plundering, supportive buildings, settlers, economical buildings, military buildings) are very easy to get and more trophies should be required to complete the goal.

I have really enjoyed the trophy hall. Great job!

Too easy was the Torn flag, for completely destroying an enemy town. You just need 10 right now, all you have to do is search the map for a town at 6 of 20 and send an army to destroy it for it to count. Now that will go away if you implement the timing option of if a player stops playing and the town will disappear after a period of time. 

I have a couple opinions about the way the trophy hall looks when you view it. I don't like the green check over the trophy. I think it makes it look ugly. I would prefer a different way of marking it complete. Maybe changing the color of the background. When the trophy is completed and I get more, I would like to see the number increase under the trophy. I know I can see it in the description box but I would also like it in the "view" area. 

I love the green check mark, I think it looks great on my trophies :)

No green check marks on my war trophies yet but this is what my two stronger heroes have collected so far.

HONEY  (level 36)  at Tauranga, a harbour town:

32 Holey Coins, 1 Weak Elephant,  7 Dead Goldfish and 1 Lazy Donkey

All gained by taking rafts on a 5 hour return trip to Makkina Harbour. There were a total of 12 trips = 60 hours.

This domain was auto deleted before she could actually destroy this town.

EDWIN  (level 20) at Dwelling:

2 Holey Coins, 1 Broken sword and 1 Severed Ear

All gained by attacking Merry Redtin from only one 7 hour return land march.

At Southdown:

12 Holey Coins and 2 Dead Golfish plus 1 Torn Flag (destroyed Skyclad's secondary town).

Skyclad was only an 80 min return land march away and took approximately 12 trips to destroy this town.

Some of the Holey Coins were gained from Kusagai, a 94 min return land march away. This town was only plundered as it was a very good source of free resources.

I am sure some of the 'real' warriors would like to show their war trophy totals. We would be very interested to see how many they collected.

Having to have all attacks launch from one town is very problematic.

Like most players, I often launch my army from different towns. Often depending on the location of my target. Sometimes, I split my army, sending some by land and some by raft. And I usually use 2 different towns to launch from when I do that. (sounds silly, but 1 hero has only 1 harbor and that makes her short on rafts.) I do that so that I know which to send on each part of the raid.

Having to earn trophies from the launching town, would mean that the trophy hall would have to be located in a harbor town. Other wise, your sea battles would not count towards the victory. And not all players are able to reach the sea until later in the game. 

Another problem that I see, is that if you settle a new town after your hall is built, you can not change your launching town to it. No matter how much better of a location it may be, without losing your progress. 

Having to launch all attacks from 1 location would greatly alter the way that most of us play.