Suggestion about politics

I would like to suggest to not allow a despot player to change his politic into collect or republic . 

We declared war to a full despots alliance , after 24h,  99% of them changed to collect and hiding under neverending lada's.... what's the point of this kind of situation ???    

While I don't like the way she expressed it (and her overall), not saying that I agree, but the fact is that someone willing to do war victory (not just razing ton of towns for no reason/trying to not be bored and yet failing/farming useless achievements) without any arranged battles already has very few targets for stripes, if any at all, so if those targets would switch that would be a problem because while switching to collectivism would compensate a bit by giving thrice stripes, it doesn't matter because it would more importantly make the defender 3 times stronger, making an already strong target (higher age) probably impossible to get stripes on anymore.

That's for stripes, for the other main thing about war victory which is destroying towns, it also makes it impossible, not just 3 times longer since rebuilding in collectivism towns is not 3 times slower than leaderism, and it's even more a problem for the trophy about destroying all 5 towns of the same country with dwelling(first town) becoming invincible.

It's also worth noting that most people choose collectivism instead of leaderism and stay with it, so if some people who has chosen leaderism switch to collectivism there will be an even higher ratio of collectivism towns, which from a lot I could read from you berserker is not what you would like. If the game was telling that by choosing leaderism you won't be able to select collectivism later, sure some people would choose collectivism directly instead but not all those that would have switched later if attacked so it would still be better.

I expect you to suggest to attack with other players, not alone, but lucifleur himself (which I repeat, is the only one that did war victory and did it WITH around 50% arranged battles) said that it was easier to be alone to get his trophies, and also unfortunately, most people that are currently attacking other people are not the nicest people to talk to, I'm not going to let them hurt me just to get a victory, I'd rather try to do it alone even if it would highly increases my chances of failing it since it's just a game.

1. why anonimous ? lol - once more you're hiding ( an addition of lada's lol ) .

2. I am not speaking about war victory - I am speaking about the behaviour of some players ! 

3. no beginner will choose despot - and I am not saying that a collect will not be able to change to despot if he wants to .... 

1. why anonimous ? lol - once more you're hiding ( an addition of lada's lol ) .

2. I am not speaking about war victory - I am speaking about the behaviour of some players ! 

3. no beginner will choose despot - and I am not saying that a collect will not be able to change to despot if he wants to .... 

I am not hiding, I left the game for the fact that 3 very large alliances banded together.  More than once by the way.

This is the 3rd time those alliances have done so.  What is the point in playing only to KNOW you will be wiped out by the same players.

So, yes, I changed to collect.  I do not have to make it easy for you.  And yes, I have now left the game.  If your objective was to chase us out of the game, then you have succeeded with one of us.

War can be fun, I am not saying it is not, but 9000 high level units against 1 town is NOT something you can easily defend against.  Even if all members of my alliance are on and send ALL of their units to reinforce.  Missiles usually come first, then nukes, then the 9000 units.

I do not think Bers intended for the war part to be taken this far.  Yes, he wants despot against despot and so forth, but I think it was intended to be 1 alliance against another.  I may be wrong, but to have half the map going after 1 alliance that is "supposedly" a bunch of bullies, is a bit ridiculous.

Also, to spend all this time building up a hero and aiming for your own personal goals, only to have it wiped out at 100 to 110 days?  Nope.  Won't be playing it again.  Especially after 3 rounds of the same treatment.  You would think you have had your fun already and made your point, but who is the bully now?

I fully expect that if I return to the game at a later date, some will remember this post and make a point of wiping me out again.  So be it.

Like you said , we are playing following Berserker's rules....His game, his rules....Collect players and despots players playing a game, nothing more , nothing less. My objective is not to drive out players of the game, my objective is the same as everyone's here : enjoy the game! 

Btw, I really dont see why you are complaining - 3 of the bigest alliances in the game with Abombs , nukes and thousands of units not even able to wipe out a town lol! The town is fully rebuild under 3 days, few resources required and very few time , so, where is the problem? Bers make it very easy now to rebuild after an attack. 

You forgot to mention that 3 players in your alliance are throwing Abombs as well lol . You forgot to mention that you use to do attacks as well  with your alliance - so, playing victim now it's a little bit too much imo.

 Anyway, the only result of this thread will be the creation of a new special lada's, lasting 7 days, especially for despots under attack! lol 

At the very least, it could be good if even for the first time, switching from leaderism to collectivism demoted 1 level of each buildings, it would demotivate some to do it, and for those that do it at least it would weaken their towns, either a real lot if they do it on first attack without taking the time to upgrade every promoted buildings to at least level 2, or if they take the time to upgrade them they would stay in leaderism still for some days (or donate a lot to quickly upgrade everything needed). Would be especially good for non promoted buildings already level 10/19/20 that would need another blueprint to be upgraded back, so especially those in info age and their mandatory blueprint costs.
For the lada wards, berserker himself said that 3 days was quite long already, so maybe he can do something about it like he did with the 100 days rule who became 90 days, all wards already in inventories should still give 3 days so those who bought them don't legitimately complain, or you can give some enkord cash back. Also maybe it's too much that when getting a ward you can give another one to another player (even if he didn't donate actually), so right now some people can easily spend like 100 days under ward 6/7 of the time, it even makes their normal truce items not just useless but even something they shall absolutely avoid using because those take as long to load than to protect.

In fact, the update that made the first switch of politic not giving any penalty was made to motivate people to switch to monarchy democracy etc, but when you think about it it's quite absurd that it also allows you to switch to collectivism since that politic was available from the very start (and republic too if you choose leaderism since it's basically the same in stronger), so if switching would still be possible, at least in those cases the penalty should be back like it was before that update years ago.

Hey, Babs! Allow me to introduce you a counterpoint from a person, who you would definitely trust - yourself:

http://www.totemtribe.com/talk/same-old-same-old/

I say it's just karma.

"You can do whatever you want to do as long as you do not break the rules. That's the point of this game."  -Bers

So, as Collect have such a big defensive advantage, 3 big alliances attacking is not only fair, it is the -only- way to play PVP against a collect and stand a chance of winning.  It is the way Bers has designed it, so it must be fair by definition above.

Hiya, firstly im down to 85 ladas so if anyone has spare please send them me, my decision at first was not to answer this post but then it became apparent some things needed clarifying. Yes we started as a despot alliance however when we got declared on by 2 allliances with over 6k units it became apparent we needed to do something or be wiped within a week.. So we switched to collect BUT with so many new members it obviously takes time to teach them the different requirements and tbh me too and im "old". So we are learning a new approach SLOWLY I look forward to playing the game in a different way but this is going to take time. I dont want 7 day ladas the 3 days of no action is hard to take tbh but within that 3 days one of my members hasnt rebuilt her town and that was just from 12 hrs attacking. we do need a balance, as an attacker i found it unfair but now as a collect being attacked i find it hard to not hide behind flags whilst we re organise and learn. Of course that is our fault for changing politics halfway thro and hopefully as collects we can at least try to stand up to the 3 alliances against us. I have had several others asking who we upset and why its so personal I choose to think its not and its a compliment no single alliance will attack, however, if it is for a partcular reason (as this seems to be following us) I wd like to no why, no matter who the problem is with we stand and fall together but it wd be nice to no, or rather stop the gossip as i dont personally think its personal, just we have good players and provide a challenge which i hope we can do better in the future just in a different direction:)

Hiya, firstly im down to 85 ladas so if anyone has spare please send them me, my decision at first was not to answer this post but then it became apparent some things needed clarifying. Yes we started as a despot alliance however when we got declared on by 2 allliances with over 6k units it became apparent we needed to do something or be wiped within a week.. So we switched to collect BUT with so many new members it obviously takes time to teach them the different requirements and tbh me too and im "old". So we are learning a new approach SLOWLY I look forward to playing the game in a different way but this is going to take time. I dont want 7 day ladas the 3 days of no action is hard to take tbh but within that 3 days one of my members hasnt rebuilt her town and that was just from 12 hrs attacking. we do need a balance, as an attacker i found it unfair but now as a collect being attacked i find it hard to not hide behind flags whilst we re organise and learn. Of course that is our fault for changing politics halfway thro and hopefully as collects we can at least try to stand up to the 3 alliances against us. I have had several others asking who we upset and why its so personal I choose to think its not and its a compliment no single alliance will attack, however, if it is for a partcular reason (as this seems to be following us) I wd like to no why, no matter who the problem is with we stand and fall together but it wd be nice to no, or rather stop the gossip as i dont personally think its personal, just we have good players and provide a challenge which i hope we can do better in the future just in a different direction:)

Why on Earth you peoples are ALWAYS thinking it is a pesonnal matter? lol! We just want to play this game as REAL DESPOTS. 

As for the beginners players in your alliance, just a big laugh sorry ...90% of your peoples are VETERANS lol .  Clarification : we were going for your 3 most develloped players,  1 in space age and 2 others in info age! With such kind of huge players you are saying you are not able to defend ??? Seriously? Stop making excuses and learn your peoples how to defend with proper units . When you're in info age you're not reinforcing with artists, bards or cavemen! Seriously ??? Your veterans are in info age and they are sending cavemen to protect the peoples under attack ? WOW! 

This post is about balance attacks/defences, that's all. If the 3 biggest alliances in the game are not able to wipe out 1 town in 12 h that means there is NO BALANCE AT ALL .

 I am not complaining , I am making a huge statement ! 

FYI, for my 60 days left, I will keep trying :D 

Hey, Babs! Allow me to introduce you a counterpoint from a person, who you would definitely trust - yourself:

http://www.totemtribe.com/talk/same-old-same-old/

I say it's just karma.

One word:  Context.

Both posts are correct for the thread they are in.

Had to edit one bit, if you have to go search 2 year old threads for a comment, then you have way too much time on your hands and the one does not apply to the other.  The original comment was about peeps asking for a "peaceful" continent.  The original message in THIS thread did not ask for a peaceful section and never said a word that war was wrong.  I only disagreed with your original complaint.

Hey, Babs! Allow me to introduce you a counterpoint from a person, who you would definitely trust - yourself:

http://www.totemtribe.com/talk/same-old-same-old/

I say it's just karma.

One word:  Context.

Both posts are correct for the thread they are in.

Had to edit one bit, if you have to go search 2 year old threads for a comment, then you have way too much time on your hands and the one does not apply to the other.  The original comment was about peeps asking for a "peaceful" continent.  The original message in THIS thread did not ask for a peaceful section and never said a word that war was wrong.  I only disagreed with your original complaint.

You only make it even more hilarious, because:

- You can't disagree with my original complaint because there is no "my original complaint", my only phrase here contains a funny remark about your flip.

- I've got a link to an old thread shared via PM, because many people has found your flip hilarious. You however take time to raise a month-old post in a game you've left.

- If you can't see the correlation between those two threads, it is truly karma.