Same Old Same Old

You all say that you never work together -but here you are again all attacking the same alliance,. Why don't you attack each other? This would test the game, you already know that you can wipe out towns and domains in single attacks.You are showing yourselves to be the bullies you say you are not

Hope there are some replies so I can hear you pitiful excuses for this.

This has been brought up ad nauseum. In a player vs player game you will always runs across this.

IF as you say you have been watching, then you were not watching closely enough.  They DO attack each other.  Granted not for long, but hard words or reading a message wrong will do that.

There is some very good advice out there, everyone should heed it.  Although I do agree that sometimes it will not work, no matter what you do.  All depends on what was said and to whom.

This will never be a peaceful game.  If that is what you are looking for, I suggest you keep looking.  When you get a community of people that span the world, you will ALWAYS run across issues.  The written word can be taken SOOO many ways.  It is very easy to offend without meaning to.

Please remember that this is an alpha, not an open game.  Until it is fully developed, this will continue.  The world we are given is very small for the number of people that want to play.  If we are to fully test ALL of the items / quests / actions available, then the wars and beating up will continue.

Once the game is completed to a stage where it can be released in Beta, then I am sure some of these issues will start to disappear as we will have more continents and space.

Yes, you may see the BIG 3 as a problem, but they can also be very helpful if you ask.  I personally have been wiped out by them a few times.  It is very informative of what works and what doesn't.  Not nice, but then again, sometimes it is deserved.  Berserker has already advised MANY times that the game is not complete and he will not be changing things to suit those that "just" want to play.  From my point of view, he is very close to Beta stage. 

This post is more about the way the 'big 3' go after the weaker and new players. For some reason they all find they need to go after the same alliances. They are much easier to attack with little damages to the attacker.  The fight would be much fairer if they attacked each other.I have watched how they attack each other, they wait until the end of alpha, when they have finished all the quests and victories that they wanted to get. The players they have attacked have not had the chance to do this because they have been to busy retraining and rebuilding.Again I say shame on them.

I am sorry you feel that way, but they have been here from the beginning.

How do you think bers got this far?  Only input from the players will do that.  These players have been here from the beginning.  Valuable input and valid input, not feelings is part of this alpha.

All game developers go through this stage, the fact you were invited to play should count for something.

I may not be playing right now, but that was my choice.  I WILL be coming back to the game on my own time.  As you can see, I still read the forums and this is not bers fault or the big 3.  The game needs to be tested in ALL respects.  That includes war.  YES, they may be big, but they are still testing for him and reporting it all.  The developers do not ignore these messages.  They take it under advisement and see what the majority wants.  So far, the majority wants this game, you have to learn to deal with ALL the aspects.  That includes the worldwide content.

When the actual FULL game is released it won't be this way.  There will be at the minimum 9 continents and many more players.  The maximum alliance right now is 30 players.  Imagine over 3000 players?  How is that going to go?  If Berserker gets where I think he is going, it is going to be much larger than that.

And, like I said earlier, they are not evil.  The big 3 are actually very helpful if you ask nicely.  Yes, they wiped me out.  Once by request, lol.  The other times because I ticked them off.  All of them are more than willing to help.  Actually you may be surprised at how many will help.

The biggest issue I can see right now is everyone is worried about the "BIG 3".  Don't be.  Play your game, some you win, some you lose.  All games are that way.  Do not let emotion spoil what they are trying to develop.  Learn.

Enjoy the game for what it is.  A game.

I am sorry you feel that way, but they have been here from the beginning.

How do you think bers got this far?  Only input from the players will do that.  These players have been here from the beginning.  Valuable input and valid input, not feelings is part of this alpha.

All game developers go through this stage, the fact you were invited to play should count for something.

I may not be playing right now, but that was my choice.  I WILL be coming back to the game on my own time.  As you can see, I still read the forums and this is not bers fault or the big 3.  The game needs to be tested in ALL respects.  That includes war.  YES, they may be big, but they are still testing for him and reporting it all.  The developers do not ignore these messages.  They take it under advisement and see what the majority wants.  So far, the majority wants this game, you have to learn to deal with ALL the aspects.  That includes the worldwide content.

When the actual FULL game is released it won't be this way.  There will be at the minimum 9 continents and many more players.  The maximum alliance right now is 30 players.  Imagine over 3000 players?  How is that going to go?  If Berserker gets where I think he is going, it is going to be much larger than that.

And, like I said earlier, they are not evil.  The big 3 are actually very helpful if you ask nicely.  Yes, they wiped me out.  Once by request, lol.  The other times because I ticked them off.  All of them are more than willing to help.  Actually you may be surprised at how many will help.

The biggest issue I can see right now is everyone is worried about the "BIG 3".  Don't be.  Play your game, some you win, some you lose.  All games are that way.  Do not let emotion spoil what they are trying to develop.  Learn.

Enjoy the game for what it is.  A game.

sorry was going to ask who babs was, did not mean to quote anything.

hi thetis,

Yes, I know you.  I see you are doing well.  I am not going to say who I am as I managed all by myself to tick off too many people.  I will be back later when I have time.  Too much going on in real life to play much.

good luck and keep up with the updates and bug reports.

This post is more about the way the 'big 3' go after the weaker and new players. For some reason they all find they need to go after the same alliances. They are much easier to attack with little damages to the attacker.  The fight would be much fairer if they attacked each other.I have watched how they attack each other, they wait until the end of alpha, when they have finished all the quests and victories that they wanted to get. The players they have attacked have not had the chance to do this because they have been to busy retraining and rebuilding.Again I say shame on them.

This entire statement is incorrect actually. In fact, going after despot players is super easy and over very fast. Too fast really... They have no special defense boost etc.... Part of the main challenge that a lot of alliances go for is the time it takes, the amount of math needed to see just how much is needed to hit a collect hero with the amount of extra defense they have. Its all a strategy. 

Of course you will always have those that only go after new players... That is why the dev team made the 30 day rule that broke alliances, and when i say broke, i mean you can not join a large alliance that is established and can protect you. Literally it only ruined the functions of pure pvp and alliance status. You will still be a target to those in the same 30 day range and you will still come here and say the game is not fair etc. That will never change. And i think the devs really need to think about changing this because i have tried personally to help many of the new players to this game and now it's just useless.

As for the "BIG 3" comment... Have you even played this game lately? The "BIG 3" may have been a thing back in alpha 5/6.... But now there are much more larger alliances... The "BIG 3" no longer exists and hasnt existed for a long time. I know for a fact that my alliance has not went on joint attacks with any other alliance for several alphas now. Those large attacks you have been watching are all from a single alliance. We do not work together. And this is coming straight from the leaders mouth of the BlackFlag alliance.

I always help players, in pm or in public. As babs made it clear already, we are all here as testers. I am sure the majority of the players in this game hate me, but i take it with a grain of salt. This is a game with so much versatility that you can not simply expect it to just be peaceful puzzle loving players the entire game.

You may not think of your self as a big 3, but you must admit that you are the 3 strongest alliance and are attacking the same new alliance.  How does this encourage new players to join and stay? Reading other forum comments sounds like more will leave.I never suggested that you have never helped other players. I am one that has been helped by you.I agree with you about the 30 day rule, it does need to tweaked still.I agree the new players need to learn to defend better.I do not think 'peaceful' continent would work.

I have one comment to this, when does a player stop being new? The ones in the alliance you are talking about played last alpha. Because they changed the name of their alliance does not make them a new alliance or new players. The leader of this so called new alliance was here all of last alpha. So again I ask when does a player stop being new?